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So let us get started. I come back to the second slot um.

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So that was the initial lecture outline. We have covered part
one. He <unk> and life in moving fluids @unoise@ that was

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designed to be to provide the background to address the
second slot, which titled " Fish behavior in response to

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hydrogennamic stimuli.

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Again, the second slot is divided in two lectures. In the
first one, we are going to talk about a brown trout and how

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brown try chooses space or habitat. Uh, based on on um, on
the hydrogennamic properties of them, of the habitat itself.

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In lecture number two, we will talk
about eels downstream migration, um?

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so let us start with the first assessing hydrogennamic
space, use of brown trout. Uh. Before I start some

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acknowledgment, all the material that I will be presenting
is essentially taken from this paper that was published in a

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journal, Experimental Biology in Ah, twenty sixteen. Ah, I
want to acknowledge the contribution of Jim Care, my Phd.

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Student, and Ah, Paul Camp, the other supervisor. Ah, Michael
League in Southampton when I was based there. The title of

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" The of the of the paper <unk> alliance with the title of
the talk. Nothing strange @unoise@ % um what we wanted to do

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here in this study was getting a little bit about their
understanding on how, ah, not not much about how ah fish swims

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while migrating, but actually how fish, when not migrating,
chooses his space, is habitat as a function of only

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hydrogennamic properties of this avid <unk>. We wanted to
isolate the effect of <unk> on space use that is what it is

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called and um, this clearly has, uh, lots of important
implications. Uh, understanding to see how physical environment

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influenced distribution and movement of fishes is is a
fundamental team in equatoris. We need to understand what our

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suitable habitats for fish under, you know, ah, ah, as a as
a function of many variables for the validity, atrogenity

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and blah, blah, blah, everything that Ah, that describes
the the college of the system. But what is the role of

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hydrogennamics? what is really the driving principles that
moves fish towards one place or another? how do they choose a

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where to stay in where to hold station, or where they spend
their time essentially in aquatic environment. <unk>

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@unoise@ % um. This topic has created a fairly big debate in
the literature. Um? because if you want to associate, uh,

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what hydrogennamics. Sorry. Well, if you want to, uh, identify
what sort of uh hydrogennamics fish prefers. You have to

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find an <unk> matrix to describe it. Is it fish? do they like
low cost areas to stay there? do they like <unk> intensity

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do they like <unk> <unk> um certain values of the schooners
of the flatness of the last year, of any statistics that you

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can think of. And there are, and there is a. There is a huge
number you can use and choosing the appropriate rhythmic

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matrix to describe the habitat and the suitability of the
habitat <unk> again, has been the subject of controversy. And

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reason is the traditional methods. Essentially, when I say
that there is a controversy. I'm saying that there are

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conflicting results in the literature. For example, some
people say," Ah, fish like to stay in Ah, in Ah, highly

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turbulent waters. Some others say no. They like to stay in
count waters. Why <unk> are they looking for food? are they

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resting <unk> what what? what is what is going on?

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and one problem when, uh, those studies that try to isolate
the fact of <unk> on the species um tend to heavily rely on

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simple correlation between a single point time I reached the
lost statistics and space used by fish. So traditionally,

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what you do, you do experiments in a flum, you put some
sort of uh rocks, or or sources of complexity for the hydro

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dynamics. Then you put the fish inside the flu, and you monitor
with the camera where the fish goes, you see what sort

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of preference they have for different Ah for different places
in correlate, where the fish stays longer with the and

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hydrogennamic matrix of of that place. And what they do is
they use time out at single point. The lost statistics.

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However, as we have learned in the previous slides a
single point, so that the characterization of the velocity

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statistic at one point does not capture the <unk> face
to capture flowfish interaction <unk> whereby where flow

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properties varies in time and space, simply because it is a
one point description. So they would fail to capture <unk>

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for example, where you have movement of fish, Aslam, uh,
daggering among vortices that would be very difficult to

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capture with one point measure or entertainment? well, it is
a whole flu field that, uh, that really describes why the

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fish decide to and train around the cylinder. So
that is a shortcoming of traditional methods.

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The other problem is that attempt to quantify hydrogennamic
space use by fish was addressed in field experiments, and is

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obviously the <unk> mixed results and again, this is not
surprising, because in the field field experiments are

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extremely complicated. <unk> There are many confounding variables
that are impossible to control, like food, presents of

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predators, competitors, mating issues and all these variables
will will will hide the real effects will make impossible

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to isolate the facts of hydrogennamics. The third reasons,
and is that, ah, ah, previous papers tend to again find

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statistical links between spaces and turban, flow characteristics,
balanced statistics that have no clear biological

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meaning. So some people say," Okay, I've noticed that there
is a strong correlation between space use and the turbulent,

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sheer stress.

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Why? why would the fish stay in in a region? why sheer what
is the reason for tal was the bio bio mechanics behind that.

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So it was sort of randomly selected, was just
an observation without a clear biological link.

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Um, so I decided to take a very easy approach, in my opinion,
where they made a couple of hypotheses, uh, which are

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fairly intuitive to me. Um, hydrogennamic spaces is dictated
by energy conservation. So essentially, this is a general

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principle. If mm fish can save energy has energy, then to do
other things that are important for his life <unk> finding

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praise or escape from predators, mating and so forth.

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And more specifically, the <unk> <unk> the <unk> <unk>
choices are dictated by strategies that minimize the cost of

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swimming that as we have seen, have two sources, thrust and
and dragon, which are really, really difficult to quantify.

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For for a fish that swims in a terrible and flows in a complex
environment. But anyway, this is the first hypothesis we

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did. The second hypothesis was that in an <unk> complex
environment, we can explain space use by means of two things.

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Essentially, one is the specialized behaviors that we have
observed earlier on, so on, and training, entertainment.

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Sorry, a bow wake riding <unk> these are all strategy or
specialized behaviors that allowed to save energy. And then we

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have built an adult drug function that whenever these
specialized behaviors are not feasible or not possible, allows,

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uh, to quantify, Uh, energy expenditure essentially okay.
@unoise@ this drug function D. There is nothing new @unoise@

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perhaps it is a bit new in the in the world of fish, but not
definitely not <unk> <unk> but the way we have built it

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goes as following. Following a simplified example <unk> we
say let us consider just an object of a of a standard shape,

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like a cylinder or a disk in a 2D problem in the absence of
turbulence. Will you put an object in a current, the drug

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exerted on the object is proportional to the square of the
velocity. That is what we say with a fish. The dragonfish

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depends only nearly on the lost. Okay, we are in the inertia
region. We are far away from there, from the Lorraine of

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snub. So that is that was the first hypothesis and other
hypothesis. If we had turbulence as like a fluctuating vertical

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or lateral component, in this case @unoise@ um. The drug
@unoise@ ah increases okay @unoise@ % uh <unk> without

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turbulence would be it would be um, eh? related to the
square of developments. Whenever you are <unk> <unk> in an

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idealized case @unoise@ a fluctuating latter. I component the
drug @unoise@ if. You do the math becomes proportional to

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the velocity multiplied by the square root of the salmon of
the squares of the two velocity components, you and V. This

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is very easy to show, and this is due to the fact of the
nonlinearity dependence between drug and and velocity. The

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reason why we wanted to put some, some turbulence in this
hard dog function is the turbulence, in our opinion,

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destabilized fish. I mean, there is quite a bit evidence
of or on that @unoise@ um. Despite the result prevalent in

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order that that we have seen, but clearly it must have um,
eh? it should have an effect @unoise@ if not well. We, the

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<unk> the idea is to test these apologies with the experiments
@unoise@ but. We thought this was the best candidate to

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describe energy consumption by fish while swimming in a
hydrogennamically complex environment. So eventually we decided

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to," Oh, let me let me comment a little bit more. This drug
function essentially what this drug function says is that

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imagine that you are. You are riding your bike. Okay, there
is no wind. You are riding your bike that allows to you, you

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receive, you feel a drug force that is proportional to you
square. If you have a latter right component. So some wind,

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for example, starts blowing from the side is going to be
more tiring for you. You probably have experienced that. And

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that is because of the nonlinearity between drug and and you.
That is what it says. If you imagine that these velocities

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change rapidly.

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You can define an a distract function as you multiplied by
the Rutman Square of the sum of the of the square of the

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velocities, any sort of capture that clearly in a turbulent
field. You don't have a constant latal velocity, or even a

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constant velocity changing sign. You have that we decided to
take as characteristic velocity of turbulence. The standard

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deviation of the loss is at each point <unk> clearly, in
experiments we are in a 3D condition. So we have to consider

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the lateral and the vertical component to test these hypotheses.
<unk> We decided to do some fluke experiments at the

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University of Southampton. There is this large flu <unk> which
is well suited to do some fish research. The flu is long,

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eighteen meters, I think, and rough flee one point four
meters, not exactly one point five, but fairly large @unoise@

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um. We have selected a test section of the flu @unoise@ roughly,
three meters long which, was bound by <unk> upstream by

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a honeycomb sort of a flow straightening device that we want
to have to minimize any fictitious turbulent coming from

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upstream, which is unfortunately in that flum is is
fairly high. Then we play in order to create some sort of

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hydrogennamic complexity. We have placed some cylinders
of wearing diameter from nine centimeters down to one

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centimeter, which were placed in two different arrangements,
increasing. And with this arrangement identified by

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treatment as treatment being this figure. This the idea was
to create an editor, dynamic, complex environment with some

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sort of species, if it had the size down, well generated by
in the wake of the cylinders um on the downstream part of

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the test section, we put the mesh screen. Uh, with a released
chamber for fish, meaning that before each experiment, we

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would put the fish in here wait for a while so that the fish
would climbatize and then we would release a gate, open a

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gate in here, so the fish could start exploring these
<unk> complex environment and choose positions he liked,

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essentially, so that we could correlate, then the <unk>
properties of that place with Ah, with the choice of the fish,

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essentially besides treatment, a with the cylinders in this
configuration treatment B with this other configuration. We

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also did what the biologists call a control experiment <unk>
so the same experiment, exactly the same thing without

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cylinders. <unk> So very, very, very simple.

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And we repeated that @unoise@ um. And I think that is it.

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What sort of fish did we use <unk> brown trout again, the
source. We got some hatchery fish, and we have divided it in a

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small, medium and large size class, ranging from with a length
of fourteen centimeters up to twenty, eight centimeters

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for the large trout case <unk> quite a few number of
experiments. This is very time consuming and and very difficult

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experiments to do <unk> um fifty three trouts for the small
twenty five or medium, let us say, in twenty six, for the

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large a trout. We also catch some wild trouts in the field,
which were mixed in size were like nineteen centimeters,

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plus minus three point six. Essentially, we wanted to have
both hatchery trouts and wild trout to see % uh. If the

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results were were actually, if the hatchery results were
lining with wild trout results that any result we got was just

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a result of being grown in a hatch <unk> because what we are
interested in are actually wildfish <unk> but obviously

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there are regulations. You cannot fish many and are difficult
to fish. It takes time. They die when you transport them

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to the lab. I mean, it is, uh, you need to have the proper
facilities to maintain them in a hydraulic slab. It is a lot,

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a lot of work. Um, all the experiments Eh were done by placing
a camera on top of the of the fish, putting some infrared

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illumination. All the experiments were done at night. So zero
visibility, the <unk> the fish would uh choose their uh,

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their position just by sensing the flow by means of the <unk>
system. The latter line, we didn't want to have any side

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effects, essentially um so that we could, we could monitor its
position. Uh. We also, uh, not exactly automatically, but

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as automatically as we could.

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We did careful measurement of of the floor field with an Av,
which is not @unoise@ Ah. Let us say @unoise@ particularly

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a great for turbulence research, but it um it. Ah, it works
fine for this type of studies. Ah <unk> it is a it is a ah

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<unk> allows to make one point measurements by sampling time
series of <unk> in three <unk> the all the three components

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of the of the velocity vector. Frequencies vary between
fifty and a hundred Herz. But that doesn't really matter,

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because the sampling volume is fairly large. So the <unk> the
measurements are filter it, but I mean, <unk> ed Are Ok to

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to measure the bike properties of flow, like up to the
second order of the statistic. I think we are fine.

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So we could plot the floor field for the mean velocity, the
turbulence intensity, which is essentially the variance of

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the velocities, the relative turbines intensities for any
component. The Turban kinetic energy, the sheer stress <unk>

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the the Reynolds um sheer stress, which is the <unk> between
the longitudian and the latter velocity. Please keep in

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mind that in this configuration @unoise@ um. Ah, the the
the wake of the cylinders would have just one artistic

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components of would be add this willy will mainly with one
direction. All right, it is a fairly 2D problem, which

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allowed us to monitor the fluffy lonely at one plane and
to make things relatively easy. Um, I have. Well, we have

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chosen to um well to to address these turbulence methods,
because these are those that are under investigation, or where

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under investigation were investigating in the past, in the
past, literature @unoise@ so saying the turbans are stress.

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This is the the size that we have, that we have estimating,
actually using two point correlations. We didn't trust the

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tailor hypothesis in within the near wake zone. So we could
actually estimate the the the size of the Ed is by, by

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means, uh, a little more, a little bit more carefully.

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And as you can see, it is a fairly rich in hydrogennamics
domain. You have different the sizes you have Ah @unoise@

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regions with the high <unk> robust is high turbulence intensity
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@unoise@ <unk> <unk> <unk> actually also an effect as we will
see a slight effect on on the space use used by the trial

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@unoise@ um in doing um this sort of experiments, um? we had
to find a way of quantifying space preference. Okay, we

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wanted to build up. Um, uh, a way to quantify what fish
prefers. And this is not that straightforward, because while

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moving fish <unk> none of the fish moved enough to experience
the whole flowfield <unk> so we did decide to define the

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space used.

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And this is identified by these blue points that that are
essentially the snout position in time of the fish <unk> so

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that is where the head of the fish is a sensor, essentially.

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And then we have identified the sampled. So what they acquired
actually, what the fish experienced while navigating in

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the test section. And that depends, as we have seen by the
mechanical <unk> system they have by the latter line, which

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accordingly, according to literature, allows to have an idea
of the hydrogennamics within this range. So, eh, within a

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<unk>, the field of detection is, say, two body lanes long and
one body length wide around the cylinder so that we could

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map the sampled hydrogennamics and the used either dynamics,
higher dynamic preference <unk> how did we define it <unk>

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essentially, what we did by monitoring the space used <unk>
we decided to take an either dynamic matrix. Here I have

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taken, by example, the drug function that we like a lot. We
say, okay, this is the fish, the space that was used by the

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fish. And we have reported that in
a frequency distribution, a plot.

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Ah, um. Then we did exactly the same. Ah, ah, about how this
this drug function was % um was common in within the space

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sampled hydrogennamic preference was just defined as the
ratio between space used and space and space sample just to

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reflect the fact that we can only define Ah, the preference,
the fish % um. The show showed within the rhythmic

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environment. He managed to um to to sample to feel okay. That
was that. That was the the." the idea, um farthermore, uh,

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with um, identified all those areas within the the test
section, where specialized behavior zones could actually occur.

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If you remember <unk> we talked about carmenating, which was
known from the literature. So by analyzing the data from

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the numerous papers on <unk> we could get a sort of a definition
of an air. Where could Carmen get it could occur, which

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depends on the cylinder diameter and
the and the size of the fish as well.

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So we could identify it in our test section. The green
rectangles identify where fish would go to do and trainment

00:24:17.802 --> 00:24:23.140
again. We could get that from the
literature bow riding again.

00:24:24.150 --> 00:24:32.496
There is fairly robust literature that allowed to find potential
areas where fish could do bow riding. We also observed

00:24:32.496 --> 00:24:40.693
some new um um sort of strategies. One is taale. Holding is
pretty trivial. Essentially, if some fish were very, very

00:24:40.693 --> 00:24:48.502
lazy, and they would put their tail against the downstream
a screen and their head against the latter wall, and they

00:24:48.502 --> 00:24:57.056
would stay there without moving <unk> so that is not about
it <unk> and now occurred really that there is a lot of

00:24:57.056 --> 00:25:04.128
clustering of points here and here, identified by the black
rectangles, the other one, which is less straightforward. We

00:25:04.128 --> 00:25:08.180
notice a lot of fish staying in this in this area.

00:25:08.630 --> 00:25:16.965
And to be perfectly honest, we don't have an explanation why
they really liked that position, because that is actually,

00:25:16.965 --> 00:25:25.340
again, an error of very fast velocities @unoise@ Ah, which
would suggest <unk> high drug conditions, right? so um high

00:25:25.340 --> 00:25:26.620
energy expenditure locations.

00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:37.674
However, it is not that far off from areas where the fish
wouldn't train <unk> so we have <unk> we have interpreted as a

00:25:37.674 --> 00:25:48.387
sort of <unk> but that why there is energy saving in proximity
of a lateral wall and a cylinder, eh? we are not that

00:25:48.387 --> 00:26:00.148
sure. Okay, but again, these are the potential areas <unk>
at low energy cost. Okay, for the fish again. <unk> So just

00:26:00.148 --> 00:26:10.207
to summarize we have <unk> complex environments we could
class five with with the last measurement we had put fish

00:26:10.207 --> 00:26:20.020
inside. And we have observed fish more movements within this
test section. And we now have a tool to quantify preference

00:26:20.020 --> 00:26:30.244
expressed by the fish to the different Er. Locations <unk>
and this is these are the results we got for the drug

00:26:30.244 --> 00:26:41.999
function. Now here these curves on the left vertical axis
we have the preference has defined previously B, H and Um.

00:26:42.009 --> 00:26:52.251
Different lines, Uh, are associated with trouts having different
dimensions. Small, medium, large and wild class. Okay,

00:26:52.251 --> 00:27:02.657
the estagrams, the gray instagrams instead are um. The frequency
distribution of the whole available hydrogennamics in

00:27:02.657 --> 00:27:11.595
the flow domain. Ok <unk> eh meaning if these curves followed,
the preferencecers followed the the <unk> these patterns

00:27:11.595 --> 00:27:19.686
of the Eastern. That means that they, they didn't really
like it. They <unk> they stayed there simply because that is

00:27:19.686 --> 00:27:27.251
the most um probable hydrogennamic metric. Well, the <unk>
the in this case is the is the most probable drag that you

00:27:27.251 --> 00:27:33.706
can have. So it is more likely to experience it, because
it is everywhere. Okay? if these these curves diverge from

00:27:33.706 --> 00:27:37.439
these maximum, then there is a preference
which is meaningful essentially.

00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:49.865
Now, let us forget a little bit about a figure B. Let us look
at Figure A. When we did, we computed the preference for

00:27:49.865 --> 00:27:59.749
small, medium, large and wild fish using the <unk> function
that we defined. We noticed that there was a very clean

00:27:59.749 --> 00:28:06.994
results of a of a biomodal distribution, essentially where
they were strong preference for really low drug areas,

00:28:06.994 --> 00:28:15.318
definitely lower than than than than than they are available.
The most problem are available at the dynamics, and but

00:28:15.318 --> 00:28:25.811
also a peak at very high drug. And this was surprising at
the beginning. But then we decided to filter out all the

00:28:25.811 --> 00:28:35.490
points that belonged to the Um, to these S, B, Z, the
specialized behavioral zones. So we took out all the points

00:28:35.490 --> 00:28:43.161
belonging to these areas, and essentially what you get is
that this pig disappears <unk> so. This preference in this

00:28:43.161 --> 00:28:53.172
drug at this high drug are explained by the fact that the
fish was at locations where he had to use, not, uh, well, he

00:28:53.172 --> 00:29:02.613
<unk> he was using either <unk> or entertainment which is, uh,
associate with very fast philosophy. Okay, but yet it was

00:29:02.613 --> 00:29:13.615
experiencing a low energy consumption because of the specialized
behaviors we talked earlier on. So this picture is that

00:29:13.615 --> 00:29:25.429
suggests that wherever this as beset do not occur. Fish like
to stay at <unk> at low drug <unk> and to compare now the

00:29:25.429 --> 00:29:34.030
performance of the drug function. Notice this. This result
just says we were right. The black function works, explains

00:29:34.030 --> 00:29:38.409
and nicely the space used, the
dynamic spaces of brown trout.

00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:48.644
So what we did, we then filter out all the all these points
of, as be said, neglecting the behavior in this. In these

00:29:48.644 --> 00:29:56.866
specialized zones. And we compare the performance of the
drug function against many other matrix um in this plot, you

00:29:56.866 --> 00:30:05.471
have the results of treatment A with the cylinders, Ah,
decreasing Ah from left, right, the treatment B, where they were

00:30:05.471 --> 00:30:12.910
in an <unk> were put in another Ah configuration. And the
control experiments essentially an experiment with no

00:30:12.910 --> 00:30:23.333
cylinders in the test section on top. Here we have the the
preference curves for small, medium, large and Wildf, which

00:30:23.333 --> 00:30:32.665
are the colored curves again. Ah and Ah, at the the the
metric serious drug. And again, there is the gray Instagram,

00:30:32.665 --> 00:30:41.161
which identifies the available hydrogennamic um, the available
Ah drug in the in the whole test section. And you can see

00:30:41.161 --> 00:30:50.369
there are quite spike and well defined peaks, defining a
<unk> a clear preference of the brown trout with both

00:30:50.369 --> 00:30:59.117
treatment, meaning that there seems to be no influence of
Uh cylinder configuration, and also in the control case,

00:30:59.117 --> 00:31:08.785
preferences are ah quite high, especially for the small ah
trouts and the wild trouts <unk> Which, were mixed <unk> ah

00:31:08.785 --> 00:31:18.070
in in the wild class they were small and large trouts. The
fact that preference is higher for small crowds. It can be

00:31:18.070 --> 00:31:25.701
explained because more trouts need more to save energy, because
they are smaller, so they have less powers when they are

00:31:25.701 --> 00:31:32.606
more interested in in saving energy than a very large
trout that instead can swim almost undisturbed within the

00:31:32.606 --> 00:31:40.000
experiment, even in the control, a experiment. There is,
we observe the same results. Interesting. The small trouts

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:48.884
here. The blue curve actually has a peak towards even lower
values of drug. And that is because, being smaller, they can

00:31:48.884 --> 00:31:56.130
go perhaps even closer to the lateral walls, where there are
smaller velocities. And so <unk> um um smaller values of

00:31:56.130 --> 00:32:01.100
drag, something that a larger throat
cannot do simply because of of the size.

00:32:02.369 --> 00:32:10.360
Now, this is the sheer stress, which was a big candidate.
According to literature, there is the preference follows the

00:32:10.360 --> 00:32:18.406
estogram. So is not um very meaningful. In our opinion,
@unoise@ and ah also the preference itself. The value ranges

00:32:18.406 --> 00:32:27.653
from <unk> one point two to maybe nine versus the Uh. They,
they are much higher values of the drug function. And

00:32:27.653 --> 00:32:35.537
overall, there is not a consistency stint picture from
treatment eight. It meant being in control, actually, for the

00:32:35.537 --> 00:32:43.873
sheer stress. A similar story for the turbulent kinetic energy
<unk> which somewhat follows the patterns of the of the

00:32:43.873 --> 00:32:50.604
estograms. Uh, not much in the control experiments. But keep
in mind that here the variations in Turban kinetic energy

00:32:50.604 --> 00:32:58.240
were not that big, as you can see that the range of Turban
kinetic energy that is dictated by the cylinder experiments a

00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:06.837
lot larger than the control. So anyway, this seems to suggest
a drug. Actually, the drug function explains a lot better

00:33:06.837 --> 00:33:15.799
than the other matrix space use. The question now is how drug
compares to the Mb velocity. Okay, we may actually overdo

00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:24.558
that. Um again, on top we have the drug function with the
preference curves on bottom the Ah. The <unk> um obtained from

00:33:24.558 --> 00:33:33.891
the from the Me velocity, which is the simplest matrix that
is actually used in um in many models, um to be perfectly

00:33:33.891 --> 00:33:43.305
honest, also the mean <unk> works pretty well, although the
results are a bit more noisy, eh? meaning that the drug

00:33:43.305 --> 00:33:53.067
function seems to perform slightly better, not significantly
probably. And the explanation for that is that um um

00:33:53.067 --> 00:34:01.342
essentially the Sigma distant dwelling @unoise@ the the
variants of the lateral and vertical velocity within the the

00:34:01.342 --> 00:34:10.451
test section were any way smaller than you square <unk> so.
The difference between the drug <unk> function and and and

00:34:10.451 --> 00:34:20.255
you square or you, it is minimal. Yet there are some @unoise@
there. Are some um drawbacks associated with you that are

00:34:20.255 --> 00:34:29.017
that are overcome by the drug function, which seems to give
@unoise@ um clear, cleaner results. Another questions that

00:34:29.017 --> 00:34:37.361
arises is why fish would choose this particular value
of zero point twelve for drug @unoise@. Ah, we haven't

00:34:37.361 --> 00:34:45.313
investigated this much further. We haven't even ah <unk> <unk>
<unk> normalized this value with something um. We think

00:34:45.313 --> 00:34:53.470
it may actually depend on the <unk> experiment. I mean, may
be experiment dependent. So if you, if you managed to build

00:34:53.470 --> 00:34:59.560
another @unoise@ hyerodynamic ah field. Perhaps you would
see that allows the trial to explore, even lower the drug

00:34:59.560 --> 00:35:07.797
areas, they probably might, but um, so I wouldn't. I wouldn't
say that this is a a universal result, probably experiment

00:35:07.797 --> 00:35:17.601
dependent <unk> but clearly <unk> i Think these these results
are enough to say that fish do like when low <unk> okay

00:35:17.601 --> 00:35:26.352
fish whenever they they are in the hydrogennamics influences
fish behavior only on that. There is not much to talk

00:35:26.352 --> 00:35:36.217
about. So fish like to to save energy. <unk> Conclusions <unk>
<unk> <unk> <unk> we say at the beginning that there is

00:35:36.217 --> 00:35:44.814
much debate on what is the most appropriate <unk> <unk>
predict tore for space use @unoise@ ah because of the

00:35:44.814 --> 00:35:53.410
shortcomings we believe in in Ah, in the in the previous
papers @unoise@ when ah, ah, specialized behaviors are ruled

00:35:53.410 --> 00:36:02.160
out, like in trainingment. Ah <unk> and so forth @unoise@
ah what we used the proposed drug function seems to explain

00:36:02.160 --> 00:36:10.420
why <unk> um seem Ah seems to be a robust, simple and
biological relevant @unoise@ matrix to explain species @unoise@

00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:19.919
and ah the other comment I would like to make is that, ah,
similar drug function @unoise@ was used to explain not much

00:36:19.919 --> 00:36:29.831
space used by <unk> migratory ah roots a saw the use of these
matrix can be extended to explain also the prefer roots by

00:36:29.831 --> 00:36:39.063
fish while migrating. An example is the work by <unk> of twenty
twelve, where they have monitored a thing. The migration

00:36:39.063 --> 00:36:49.709
of of sturgeon upstream <unk> if you migrate upstream <unk>
energy expenditure is very, very relevant problem. Um, think

00:36:49.709 --> 00:36:57.574
about a fish that has to do thousands of kilometers of
hundreds, depending on the species, any delay, any over energy

00:36:57.574 --> 00:37:05.688
spent will would delay the reaching the spawning habitats, or
actually would prevent the fish to to reach them. So it is

00:37:05.688 --> 00:37:14.140
very important to save energy. And they have observed that
the sturgeons like to migrate on the side of the banks where

00:37:14.140 --> 00:37:22.469
velocities are very low, and presumably drug is very low, and
therefore energy um expenditure. And this ah makes a lot

00:37:22.469 --> 00:37:30.543
of sense as we have discussed. But I will leave you with an
open question. So what about downstream migration? whenever

00:37:30.543 --> 00:37:37.339
you have downstream migration, you could actually be
drifted nicely by the water. So energy expenditures seem

00:37:37.339 --> 00:37:45.889
intuitively <unk> should be less @unoise@ less important
@unoise@ and this is something that we will address for years

00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:55.539
after the Eh, the break um of ten minutes.
Okay, thank you. Any question, anything?

00:37:55.659 --> 00:38:15.813
okay, let us get back to fish, not grilled fish. But we are
now on the second part of this. Uh of the slot. And we have

00:38:15.813 --> 00:38:22.680
finished the previews @unoise@ talk about um, uh, talking,
about uh, what about downstream migration? what are the

00:38:22.680 --> 00:38:30.861
preferential roots? is there any? well, we said the <unk> the
drugs shouldn't play any role, because now fish are going

00:38:30.861 --> 00:38:40.676
are drifted downstream, essentially. So definitely, Energetics
should be less less important. <unk> We carried out a

00:38:40.676 --> 00:38:50.108
study about eels downstream migration <unk> clearly, all this
studies. Ah, whatever you find, if species dependent, we

00:38:50.108 --> 00:38:58.152
chose to study eels because it is an endangered species. And
Ah, that the, the, the ill stocks around the world have

00:38:58.152 --> 00:39:05.379
have depleted heavily in the past thirty years, and it is
considered now an endangered species. Officially, all the work

00:39:05.379 --> 00:39:13.567
that I'm going to present was most of it actually not not all
of it, but most of it is containing this paper, which is

00:39:13.567 --> 00:39:20.259
published in the Proceedings of Our society. B and I want
to acknowledge the contribution of Adam Piper Post Dock at

00:39:20.259 --> 00:39:28.014
that time with the Postdock in Southampton. Fabulous <unk>
and <unk> <unk> and a professor at the University of Padua,

00:39:28.014 --> 00:39:36.549
Rosalie Rose, right from the <unk> U. K and, Again Paul
Camp and my colleague, a former colleague in Southampt.

00:39:36.869 --> 00:39:46.983
Um, let us talk a little bit about eels. Ills are mystery
animals. Ah, the the life cycle is is Ah, is really incredible

00:39:46.983 --> 00:39:55.383
to me. When I read about about is I was really, really
surprised. Ah, do you know about that? have you ever heard?""

00:39:55.383 --> 00:40:05.580
Yeah, somebody says," Yes, one, okay, so let me just summarize
the life cycle of of ills. All the years in Northern

00:40:05.580 --> 00:40:15.453
Europe and North America are start their life in the sargassum,
essentially, and um @unoise@ as far as from the eggs

00:40:15.453 --> 00:40:26.266
they become <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> very good
thank you < laugh > And then they, they, they are born here,

00:40:26.266 --> 00:40:35.669
and then they start being drifting by currents, essentially,
and going back to rivers and lakes in North, while in

00:40:35.669 --> 00:40:45.394
Europe and in North America. By the time they arrive in fresh
waters. They are glass eels. That is when they start um ah

00:40:45.394 --> 00:40:53.147
migrating upstream while they migrate, and they live in the
in the fresh water, they become Elvis and then yellow eels

00:40:53.147 --> 00:41:01.270
so they they can grow larger and larger, until they they get
this silver color become what is called silver real <unk>.

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:09.699
And then they have instinctively the need to to migrate
downstream and to go back to the ocean. And what they do is

00:41:09.699 --> 00:41:17.899
they, they, they travel apparently all the way again to the
Sargasso Sea to for for formating, essentially, which is

00:41:17.899 --> 00:41:26.105
this desponding with the supposed spawning area. But nobody
has ever proved it. As ever tracked eels from North America

00:41:26.105 --> 00:41:34.193
or Northern Europe to the Sargasso Sea. There is there. There
is a very recent paper, I think. Yeah, two thousand and

00:41:34.193 --> 00:41:42.084
sixteen. A big group of scientists who managed to track
the fields that were <unk> released in Ireland, in Uh, in

00:41:42.084 --> 00:41:50.556
Sweden, in Norway and in France and Spain as well, and they
managed to track them with some fancy techniques. And the

00:41:50.556 --> 00:42:00.424
trajectories seems to suggest that all days are actually
going to the sagacity. But um, you know, they lost signal of

00:42:00.424 --> 00:42:10.728
all these fish while while moving. Um @unoise@ what we are
interested in in this talk are <unk> <unk> so what we are

00:42:10.728 --> 00:42:20.031
going to talk about are big ills <unk> roughly one meter long
that are moving downstream in fresh waters. That is what

00:42:20.031 --> 00:42:26.179
we are. Um aiming eh to eh what
I'm aiming to to show you today.

00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:36.059
Um, as I say, there is the severe decline of the European
ill, because there are um while migrating both upstream when

00:42:36.059 --> 00:42:44.549
they are glasses or downstream when they are silver, is the
migration is delayed or blocked by by river infrastructures.

00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:55.906
I was showing, like, dams, weirs and so forth ill suffer really
high rates of mortality, because they are susceptible to

00:42:55.906 --> 00:43:03.359
impingment at exclusion screens. Whenever you have a water
intake or something. The <unk> has to put some sort of

00:43:03.359 --> 00:43:10.809
screens to prevent the passage or <unk> to prevent the passage
of debris and in fish itself, and they get in pinch. They

00:43:10.809 --> 00:43:17.605
don't have the power. If the frost is high, they don't have
the strength to swim back. And and so they get stuck in

00:43:17.605 --> 00:43:18.169
these screens.

00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:26.680
Um, there is general lack of knowledge about his behavior in
correspondence of manmaid structures like dams and weirs.

00:43:26.690 --> 00:43:35.135
But it seems that that ills are what is called <unk> so that
they like to go there to touch the structure, possess what

00:43:35.135 --> 00:43:42.807
is going on, and then take a decision based on that I saw.
They were more prone to impangement, because if they didn't

00:43:42.807 --> 00:43:51.307
and got close to the screen. Probably they wouldn't be impinged
generally, all the downstream passage solutions that are

00:43:51.307 --> 00:44:00.497
tried worldwide have <unk> variable efficiency effectiveness,
but in generally slow <unk> this is an emergency we need

00:44:00.497 --> 00:44:09.688
to understand how fish our ills actually behaving
correspondence of this structure so that we can design these

00:44:09.688 --> 00:44:20.734
structures in a way that is friendly for for ills <unk> again,
with the same concept as explained this morning. We need

00:44:20.734 --> 00:44:30.333
to understand what really attracts ills so that we can guide
them towards a safe passage. And what repels is that we can

00:44:30.333 --> 00:44:39.256
find ways to repel them from dangerous areas like watering
takes for turbines or or or screens @unoise@ Um. This is a

00:44:39.256 --> 00:44:47.308
very sad picture taken from the literature of an example of
impingment in a in a trash track of many hills, and you see

00:44:47.308 --> 00:44:56.052
how many there are. And besides, in a water intake. And besides
being very, very sad, this is also a tremendous and high

00:44:56.052 --> 00:45:06.121
cost for the, for the for the water companies, because these
have to be. These trucks have to be cleaned daily, and the

00:45:06.121 --> 00:45:15.585
screens get get clogged. And so in dams, they lose head that
converting energy and so forth. So beside being necological

00:45:15.585 --> 00:45:23.333
emergency results, an interest by by industry to get rid of
these ills because they cost money for them. Okay, so it is

00:45:23.333 --> 00:45:31.222
a very, very important problem we want to solve. We want to
save the use to do that, we need to get an understanding on

00:45:31.222 --> 00:45:32.520
of how they behave.

00:45:33.090 --> 00:45:42.612
Um in an attempt to do that and to understand what they do.
I already telling you, I will give no answers today. <unk>

00:45:42.612 --> 00:45:51.271
Essentially, the outcome of this study is that we don't know,
but we have some new questions, which which hopefully will

00:45:51.271 --> 00:45:59.433
are sharpened with respect toward the previous literature.
<unk> I was saying in an attempt to understand how our use

00:45:59.433 --> 00:46:10.094
react to a hydrogennamic Steamboat. We decided to carry out
some field experiments in a very, very special place. This

00:46:10.094 --> 00:46:20.820
is a channel located in southern England <unk> The. Channel
is <unk> mm. Okay, the flow direction here is from left to

00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:29.240
right. Ah, there is um @unoise@ Ah. Previously, this was Ah.
This was a water intake for for hydropower generation now

00:46:29.240 --> 00:46:31.240
is mayor was made redundant.

00:46:31.389 --> 00:46:41.270
But still there is a barrack in here <unk> which, is sloped
which, can be used to construct or open the flow essential

00:46:41.270 --> 00:46:49.610
you can. You can alter the hydrogennamics as
you want using this. This did this barrack.

00:46:49.769 --> 00:46:58.520
And this is the bathroom tree. The color scale is in here.
It is in water. Depth would have ranged from one point eight

00:46:58.520 --> 00:47:07.417
meters to zero point fifty. Four, the flow. There is nothing
in here. The floor is all diverted in there. We did. We

00:47:07.417 --> 00:47:17.018
decided to essentially do two experiments. One, when the the
gates of the barrack were fully open, which implied very

00:47:17.018 --> 00:47:18.039
low accelerations.

00:47:18.349 --> 00:47:26.080
And the other experiment we call it constricted, where we
have constricted the floor to create, to create very strong

00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:30.399
acceleration in proximity. Excuse me of day of the barrack.

00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.340
What we did essentially was to put some ills.

00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:44.720
And here, farther upstream from the rake and monitor, uh,
their movements are show you how, uh, until they escaped.

00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:55.558
Okay? and we monitor that, and they fully open, which is
you. Well, ah, treatment and constricted Ah conditions. That

00:47:55.558 --> 00:47:58.610
is, that is what we did.

00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:10.200
The nice thing is that we could carry out the
experiments by keeping the same, the same discharge.

00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:17.715
Uh, so the volume of water, uh per unit second. Uh flowing
in the river, because there were upstream here. There was a

00:48:17.715 --> 00:48:23.916
wheel that allowed to divert some water when some natural
<unk> <unk> of the river would put the discharge higher so we

00:48:23.916 --> 00:48:28.990
could actually control it very, very nicely. It is an
excellent field site, because we can control the hydraulics.

00:48:30.750 --> 00:48:39.631
I was saying before, uh, doing the use experiments. We did
some transact with um, an instrument called <unk> that

00:48:39.631 --> 00:48:49.903
allowed us to measure mean <unk> and few cross sections of
the channel. And these are the the black line. And just a

00:48:49.903 --> 00:48:59.456
little bit of background and an <unk> is a big instrument
with a huge sampling volume. Okay, so what that actually

00:48:59.456 --> 00:49:08.776
measures at when flow depth are this shallow is is the bike
is the mean velocity. It is the depth average. They were

00:49:08.776 --> 00:49:17.223
lost. Nothing else or nothing, really, uh, nothing really
fancy, no turbulence whatsoever. Okay, but we could at least

00:49:17.223 --> 00:49:27.724
map, uh, the flow. Uh, fairly well. Um, we could. We also put
some maintenance in here in these Red Cross sections, um

00:49:27.724 --> 00:49:35.683
to monitor, essentially at which that eels were swimming.
Usually they swim very close to the bottom. We wanted to

00:49:35.683 --> 00:49:37.810
verify that and actually adopt that.

00:49:37.969 --> 00:49:50.838
That was the case <unk> um. We used twenty use per treatment.
So twenty years for the fully open experiment and full and

00:49:50.838 --> 00:49:59.376
twenty years for the constricted experiments. I forgot @unoise@
ah to mention that we want to create a sort of an area

00:49:59.376 --> 00:50:05.991
with high and low accelerations, because according to
literature, acceleration @unoise@ is is um I'm talking about

00:50:05.991 --> 00:50:13.396
attackive acceleration. Okay, so the flow is steady, so it
is the acceleration due to the @unoise@ today to the % uh

00:50:13.396 --> 00:50:16.790
<unk> <unk> of the flow. Okay,
that is what I'm talking about.

00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:26.442
I was saying, it seems that this acceleration is what other
fish species respond to, for example, the the work of

00:50:26.442 --> 00:50:34.835
Goodwin and and coworkers show that, uh, really um, salmon.
It is respond um to acceleration. Uh. I mean, the the

00:50:34.835 --> 00:50:42.844
response is pretty clear when the acceleration is low, they
tend to mill when it is very high there. They, they, they,

00:50:42.844 --> 00:50:48.230
they get scared. They make some rejections. They go back
upstream, actually, or downstream, depending where they are

00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:48.530
migrating.

00:50:48.769 --> 00:50:56.389
So our hypothesis was, is acceleration the right metric
also that determines some some behaviors to wheels as well.

00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:04.870
<unk> And the idea was to test these hypothesis by creating
low and high acceleration zones here to see the response of

00:51:04.870 --> 00:51:11.840
of eels. I was saying with it, we used a total of twenty
years per treatment experiment again, were carried out at

00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:18.353
night. Not much needed, because visibility in water was very
low anyway, but we decided to do all the experiments at

00:51:18.353 --> 00:51:21.449
night, which is also when eels are very, very active.

00:51:22.090 --> 00:51:33.049
We use acoustic tugging to monitor eels to tack ills. When
when swimming in the in the channel, essentially what you do.

00:51:33.059 --> 00:51:42.793
You put a lot of microphones in here. You put a tag under
the skin of the hills, and the microphones are able to to

00:51:42.793 --> 00:51:50.035
detect the signal. And by triangulation, I think they work
out. You can work out the trajectory <unk> the accuracy is

00:51:50.035 --> 00:51:57.913
@unoise@ after a little bit of an Isis we worked out. It was
roughly half a meter between half an hour. Definitely less

00:51:57.913 --> 00:52:07.002
than a meter. Okay, not great, but not. But keep in mind
that just to give you a scale. These are ten meters. So the

00:52:07.002 --> 00:52:17.263
channel is fifteen twenty meters wide, and they had to to
swim through length of what, and were thirty, forty meters in

00:52:17.263 --> 00:52:27.899
total. <unk> Ok um we verified with this <unk> sorry. That
is swarm at the bottom, which is an important Ah, which is

00:52:27.899 --> 00:52:36.262
important information for what I'm going to tell you a
very soon to back up the measurements. The <unk> velocity

00:52:36.262 --> 00:52:44.639
measurements, we decided to do some very simple basic and
numerical simulations of the flow within the channel @unoise@

00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:54.339
so that we could uh have a <unk> much more detailed flow
description of the field site @unoise@ we use the velocity

00:52:54.339 --> 00:53:02.725
measurements that we did to calibrate these model Uh models
<unk> We. Did two dissimulations Uh, uh. So essentially,

00:53:02.725 --> 00:53:13.608
what we are simulating our uh flow depths with a very rough
K. Absilon closure scheme, um. And these are the results we

00:53:13.608 --> 00:53:22.520
obtain. This is the velocity field that the <unk> in here. And
this is the acceleration field, which I have already told

00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:32.788
you seems to be an important matrix to interpret eel's
behavior um as you can see, the the fully open treatment has a

00:53:32.788 --> 00:53:42.163
fairly smooth exit from the channel, whereas the constricted
um treatment has a higher um um sorry zone a very, very

00:53:42.163 --> 00:53:50.607
high. The lost in proximity of the barrack @unoise@ and. Ah
of, course a, high ah compactive acceleration, um they I

00:53:50.607 --> 00:53:58.879
forgot to put, uh, a picture, uh. I mean, the the agreement
between the measurements and the Uh and the dissimulation

00:53:58.879 --> 00:54:08.136
was not bad at all. We managed to capture fairly well the flu
depth and the mean velocities, except for a, you know, for

00:54:08.136 --> 00:54:15.040
a few areas here, we had some problems and a
little bit here, but overall, very good agreement.

00:54:16.570 --> 00:54:22.320
I always say you can do very good simulations if you have
very good measurements so that you can tune your more than as

00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.960
you want. There is an extension <unk> but that was the case.

00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:30.639
And we use the model only to
refine the the flow description.

00:54:32.619 --> 00:54:42.602
Now, to interpret um the behavior of ills. We needed to
define some sort of of behaviors, essentially how what is

00:54:42.602 --> 00:54:46.019
behavior? you need to to quantify it somehow.

00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:55.140
And first we looked at at the the ill trajectory. And as I
will show you what they did was basically swimming almost

00:54:55.140 --> 00:55:02.757
drifting passively in this first part <unk> and then once
they reached <unk> they started doing some crazy things. We

00:55:02.757 --> 00:55:10.230
started going back start milling @unoise@ so. We wanted to
interpret @unoise@ mm the behavior in this area where things

00:55:10.230 --> 00:55:18.797
got a little bit less smooth for them @unoise@ % um so we
defined % uh switch points, switching behavior. Okay, from A,

00:55:18.797 --> 00:55:27.536
from A, A, a passive drift behavior to something that is
much more active with a fine rejection. When dance removing

00:55:27.536 --> 00:55:34.340
fish changed, switched abruptly from negative to positive.
<unk> Meaning following the current going back essentially.

00:55:34.349 --> 00:55:40.710
So it changed direction completely. That is what that means.
And moved in a <unk> direction for at least three meters.

00:55:41.030 --> 00:55:48.861
You may say this is a subjective definitions. I agree.
But what do you do? it is very difficult. And this is a

00:55:48.861 --> 00:55:56.330
definition that is used to describe fish behavior in the
literature. So that was our best shot, at least consistent with

00:55:56.330 --> 00:55:57.040
previous studies.

00:55:57.940 --> 00:56:05.910
We also defined exploratory behavior when downstream moving
from switched from negative to real taxes to some sort of

00:56:05.910 --> 00:56:13.461
lateral movements greater than three meters length, perpendicular
to the stream wise flow, and at least, and compassing

00:56:13.461 --> 00:56:24.229
more than two tarts. You know, it is < laugh > It is very
arbitrary, but ah <unk> you know, you can tell by I, you can

00:56:24.229 --> 00:56:32.958
interpret the behavior of of a fish just by looking at the
trajectors, but quantify switch points in a rigorous way. Non

00:56:32.958 --> 00:56:43.250
arbitrary <unk> it is very difficult. So this is the best
we could do by matching intuition with with quantification

00:56:43.250 --> 00:56:52.297
@unoise@ sorry <unk> yeah <unk> it is definitely subjective.
It is probably, if you give the same data to somebody else,

00:56:52.297 --> 00:57:01.781
they would see something else. But this is. This is one of the
problems <unk> But. Anyway in, my opinion, one of the, if

00:57:01.781 --> 00:57:12.623
not the best result of these experiments was not much about
the switch points was how he is swam upstream <unk> and look

00:57:12.623 --> 00:57:21.108
at these trajectories <unk> Thirty seven over forty years
actually moved downstream trees decided to do whatever they

00:57:21.108 --> 00:57:32.277
wanted. They went upstream. We lost them, but thirty seven.
So a good percentage swam went out through the barracks, and

00:57:32.277 --> 00:57:43.943
all of them, all of them swarm in these two corridors in the
channel with a velocity. There was about zero point seven,

00:57:43.943 --> 00:57:52.864
zero point six, the water, the depth average, the lost now
<unk> except for this ill here that actually patched the side

00:57:52.864 --> 00:58:03.550
banks. All of them did not came into into contact with the
banks, and yet they decided to go into these two corridors.

00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:13.456
None of them went through the centre. Why weird < laugh >
Very, very strange. Um, I was saying the velocity was zero

00:58:13.456 --> 00:58:21.230
point six with a point seven, the the depth of his velocity,
which makes sense, because they swarm at the bottom, where

00:58:21.230 --> 00:58:29.737
blossoms are slightly lower, and they were drifting by the
the near wall below state. So this is the first interesting

00:58:29.737 --> 00:58:40.621
results that we will discuss later on now, thirty, five out
of thirty, seven years. So all of them showed a reaction

00:58:40.621 --> 00:58:51.425
when they approached the rack. Okay, now you can tell your
definitions of of rejection, of of for exploratory. How did I

00:58:51.425 --> 00:58:58.224
take call it exploratory behavior is is arbitrary. You
can see whatever you want. Fine, but it is definitely an

00:58:58.224 --> 00:59:05.567
objective result. All of them reacted. All of them stopped
being drifted. So said I, they either stopped or or got

00:59:05.567 --> 00:59:18.927
scared. Okay, <unk> interestingly <unk> in the open, a fully
open experiment. Seventy five percent of the yields showed

00:59:18.927 --> 00:59:19.930
exploratory behavior.

00:59:20.460 --> 00:59:22.250
Okay, not rejection.

00:59:23.789 --> 00:59:33.712
Whereas in the constricted behavior, all these went nuts. So
one day, they approached the bar like they started swimming

00:59:33.712 --> 00:59:42.836
upstream and doing really, they were clearly scared <unk> um
every time there was a rejection. Nearly ninety one percent

00:59:42.836 --> 00:59:48.550
of all the fish they rejected. <unk> Did that multiple time.
So they tried to pass. They got scared. They went back.

00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:53.755
They swarm a little bit. Then they went back there. They
got scared again. Then there was some habituation, and

00:59:53.755 --> 01:00:01.792
eventually they went through the rack. Okay, so that that
was what happened just to give an idea of what exploratory

01:00:01.792 --> 01:00:10.695
behavior and rejection looks like. So in the constricted case,
the ill moved here, then turned, decide to turn, and then

01:00:10.695 --> 01:00:19.293
felt something, and got scarce. Ah, when they went upstream
really far away. Look at Ali. Went almost back to to where

01:00:19.293 --> 01:00:27.377
it was really released, and then eventually tried again and
then, and then escaped um in the constricted <unk>. Well,

01:00:27.377 --> 01:00:34.739
let me describe the the fully open experiment showed ills
drifting away, drifting away. And then when they came here,

01:00:34.739 --> 01:00:43.422
most of them started doing. This is sort of milding behaviour.
Well, should I go true? should I not seems, seems a bit

01:00:43.422 --> 01:00:51.953
dangerous. I don't know." and then decided to go okay, we
did some sort of analysis of these trajectories and results

01:00:51.953 --> 01:00:59.605
were pretty intuitive. There were longer posts which distance
traveled in the constricted case <unk> and much longer

01:00:59.605 --> 01:01:08.408
than the than the fully open. And there were much higher
post switch velocities of the hills. So in the constricted

01:01:08.408 --> 01:01:16.508
case, they swam away really, really fast, indicating that
they got scared for some reason. Okay, they felt the

01:01:16.508 --> 01:01:19.920
constricted area as a dangerous era.

01:01:20.309 --> 01:01:31.191
However, this kind of makes sense. This is consistent with
the picture. Accelerations scare well <unk> eels respond to

01:01:31.191 --> 01:01:45.389
accelerations. However, um it is not clear which whether
they responded really to acceleration or something else.

01:01:45.750 --> 01:01:55.338
If you mapped all the switch points for the fully open and
the constricted case. And they all occurred in proximity of

01:01:55.338 --> 01:02:04.159
the intake. It is a bit more spread. The case were the constricted
experiment. But again, even if you allow for um, some

01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:12.900
sort of flexibility on how you define the behavioral. A
switch points none of them really was in the areas of high

01:02:12.900 --> 01:02:16.480
acceleration, all the switch points were kind of upstream.

01:02:17.929 --> 01:02:26.740
So the eels clearly did not feel these accelerations of if
they, if they managed to detected the acceleration field.

01:02:26.750 --> 01:02:32.030
They use the system. I don't know. I have no idea about.

01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:40.797
So this opens the questions. Did they respond acceleration
like salmon, it is too, or to something else if they

01:02:40.797 --> 01:02:47.787
responded to acceleration, how? how did they detect the
acceleration itself? because they did not came into contact with

01:02:47.787 --> 01:02:48.149
it.

01:02:49.340 --> 01:02:58.241
So very, very weird. Perhaps they responded to noise, you
know, clearly is a much more noise environment. When you

01:02:58.241 --> 01:03:05.581
construct the floor. But Adam did some experiments with by
by mimicking the noise of a waterfall. The noise you would

01:03:05.581 --> 01:03:14.500
get in the constricted case with some speakers and microphones,
you managed to tune it and doesn't seem to be the the

01:03:14.500 --> 01:03:21.973
driving matrix @unoise@ pressure gradient could be another
another another option, or we. Perhaps it was a short time of

01:03:21.973 --> 01:03:33.012
the experiments. If you go back % um. If you go back to the
to the to the <unk> map in here. There is sort of a scoured

01:03:33.012 --> 01:03:40.348
region in here, which is with respect to background, probably
thirty, forty centimeters. There is like a slight um

01:03:40.348 --> 01:03:48.549
deepening of the of the of the bottom. Perhaps that generated
some sort of flow separation, or something that would

01:03:48.549 --> 01:03:56.885
stabilize use <unk> I don't know. It seems unlikely, because
it really occurred over large longitude in our scales. So

01:03:56.885 --> 01:04:03.949
it is not my preferred explanations, not that I have one,
but I think this is. This is unlikely it is a possibility.

01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:13.396
Um, so yeah, Gabby was suggesting pressure gradients. But
again, we <unk> from the um ah, from the modeling and the

01:04:13.396 --> 01:04:20.987
measurements of the of the flow depths, the, the, the, the
gradient in day in the water surface profile was not that

01:04:20.987 --> 01:04:28.924
severe in <unk> corresponding to the in correspondence of the
switch points, uh, or if it was well, we don't have a way

01:04:28.924 --> 01:04:36.609
to quantify it. So < laugh > I can't really tell, but it didn't
seem <unk> <unk> definitely <unk> there was not ah like,

01:04:36.609 --> 01:04:44.256
ah, ah, a sharp change. Okay, pressure. Great. And so we checked
that. But mm, I'm not sure is the right answer @unoise@

01:04:44.256 --> 01:04:52.202
Oh, another colleague of mine is convinced it could be pressure
to hide in. So we need to dig farther on that @unoise@

01:04:52.202 --> 01:05:00.090
um. The other interesting result, which Ah, which is my
favorite in this study is that, Ah, as I've shown all the ills

01:05:00.090 --> 01:05:07.269
liked to swim @unoise@ over these two corridors in the upstream.
Let us call it in the undisturbed part of the channels.

01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:13.249
Um none of them decided to to swim at
the, you know, at the in the center.

01:05:14.329 --> 01:05:24.269
The question is, are two questions. Why did they choose to
swim duck close to the banks. And if they, I mean, they they

01:05:24.269 --> 01:05:27.169
were swimming at night. Conditions zero visibility.

01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.919
They did not come into contact with the latteral banks.

01:05:31.809 --> 01:05:42.500
If they decided so they, they wanted themselves to swim,
close the banks, how on earth they detect the banks?

01:05:43.309 --> 01:05:50.040
how did they know that there were banks over there, because
it was completely night time, and they did not touch banks.

01:05:50.050 --> 01:05:57.768
So the current hypothesis that we have is that the proximity
to latter, our boundaries could be a way as lie, like an

01:05:57.768 --> 01:06:05.487
avigational cue. So they know what the boundaries are. They
know they are swimming in a channel in a river, and they are

01:06:05.487 --> 01:06:13.605
following the main current. That is what that is our
explanation. But yet again, the second question is, eels then

01:06:13.605 --> 01:06:23.872
probably use the <unk> system. The latter aligned to detect
some sort of hydrogennamic footprint of these, or of some

01:06:23.872 --> 01:06:31.800
sort of a <unk> signal signature they could
detect to see, to feel the lateral banks.

01:06:32.429 --> 01:06:40.410
And to me, the only well what generates a signal that comes
from from the latter balance towards the center, towards

01:06:40.410 --> 01:06:47.469
where they were swimming are perhaps the secondary current.
So perhaps they are able to sense secondary currents, or the

01:06:47.469 --> 01:06:54.691
sheer stress that they generate at the bottom. Remember that
they like to swim close to the bottom. So perhaps they are

01:06:54.691 --> 01:07:02.430
able to to sense some announced friction um with respect to
the, to the, to the Channel Center. I, I really don't know.

01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:10.421
There was um. There was an hypothesis. We threw in the
table when we were right in the paper. I don't think it is

01:07:10.421 --> 01:07:11.629
written in the paper.

01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:24.429
So just to conclude, um is seems to respond to either dynamics.
There is no doubt on that. But the the dynamic matrix

01:07:24.429 --> 01:07:33.934
that respond to is not clear. Actually acceleration alone.
As for salmon, it is, uh, doesn't seem to be a candidate. He

01:07:33.934 --> 01:07:38.149
will swim close to lateral banks.
But how do they detect them?

01:07:38.380 --> 01:07:46.042
I don't know <unk> what is the der dynamic senior. They
they manage to identify <unk> I don't know. And these are

01:07:46.042 --> 01:07:53.299
really, these are open questions and in my opinion, are
really, really important <unk> imagine that we understand.

01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:00.500
So with these results, we know that they like
to swim close to the to the channel banks.

01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:06.691
So this is something that attracts the ears, remembered at the
beginning. We say we need to understand what attracts our

01:08:06.691 --> 01:08:12.339
repels. So here we have the two ingredients. We know that the
constricted case repelled more than their fully open case.

01:08:12.349 --> 01:08:19.445
So we have some data showing that, and we know that they
really like to swim close to the banks. So if they really like

01:08:19.445 --> 01:08:25.824
to swim close to the monks. What is the hydrogennamics that
attracts them. If I manage to, if I managed to reproduce

01:08:25.824 --> 01:08:32.177
that artificially by putting like stripes of roughness. For
example, in proximity of the damp. Perhaps I can fool the

01:08:32.177 --> 01:08:36.970
yields and guide them towards a safe passage
creating artificial secondary currents.

01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:46.010
And if I understand what <unk> what we really repelled ills
from Ah in the barrack? if so, I really know, what is the

01:08:46.010 --> 01:08:53.261
matrix that that Ah, that that generated these rejections,
then I can ah take. I can find hydrogennamic ways to

01:08:53.261 --> 01:09:02.162
implement them in proximity of dams, and therefore, ah, prevent
used to go to screens or to be trimmed into the into the

01:09:02.162 --> 01:09:10.074
term. So I think, ah, this old study. Ah, really integrate
fundamental signs with clear engineering applications. Um, um

01:09:10.074 --> 01:09:18.920
and ah. So to me is really, really interesting. And besides
the the paper. Ah, that I have already. Ah, <unk> mentioned

01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:28.214
in our paper. There are also a couple of more references to
look at that. I have used to for this presentation. And for

01:09:28.214 --> 01:09:37.119
me, this is the final slide. I thank you very much for your
attention. And ah, as usual, if you have questions, filthy.